Who was Demas?

February 4, 2007

I was asked elsewhere why I go under the nom de plume of “Demas” – and I’ve noticed a number of people getting here by searching for the Biblical “Demas”.

So what’s the deal?

Demas is mentioned only in passing in three small passages – Colossians 4:14 and Philemon 1:24 where Paul mentions him as a fellow worker, and 2 Timothy 4:10, where Paul, alone in his prison cell, writes:

Do your best to come to me quickly, for Demas, because he loved this world, has deserted me and has gone to Thessalonica. Crescens has gone to Galatia, and Titus to Dalmatia. Only Luke is with me.

Demas is someone I emphathise with for a number of reasons (some a bit too personal for the Internet).

In a world of harsh implacable sermons and self-righteous preachers, Demas, who suffered imprisonment with Paul for his faith and whose life was surely as full of loves and failures as the rest of us, exists soley as an Awful Warning To Others.

BibleGateway’s topical index has him under “COVETOUSNESS » INSTANCES OF” and “BACKSLIDERS » INSTANCES OF”.

Demas is that one thing that modern life cannot abide – has committed the unforgivable sin – he is a failure.  And we see in him our own failures.

I did a search and grabbed some random Internet quotes – vox populi ex machina.

“The church is full of people just like Demas — we need fewer.”

“Apparently, Demas’ faith seemed real enough to mislead even the apostle Paul”

“Then, the third time Paul mentioned Demas was his remorseful announcement to Timothy that Demas had decided to defect, taking sides with the enemy.  There is no neutral ground in the battle of righteousness versus evil. Either you’re for righteousness or you’re the enemy of righteousness. If you’re an enemy of righteousness, it simply means you’ve joined forces with the devil. ”

“Is it possible that Demas went to Thessalonica for other reasons than this awful place below the city? Maybe, but the fact that this underground system of brothels was mainly what that city was known for is a good reason it must figure prominently in our conclusions. We can say that it was a strong possibility this is what appealed to Demas.”

“Throughout Scripture we find examples of those who profess Christ, but later turn out not to be saved. One example is Demas. “

Who the hell am I, safe and secure in my Western first world bubble, to judge like this? 

I don’t know why Demas was not able to stay the distance and left Paul in his prison. 

Maybe fear of death, maybe disagreement with the path of matyrdom Paul was choosing, maybe for other, personal, reasons.  We don’t know but we read our own fears and our own judgmentalism into it.   

And people assume that because they believe that Paul was Inspired by the Holy Spirit and thus right about everything he did that it should have been equally clear to everyone around him at the time.

(Aside:  like everything else in Biblical analysis there are undercurrents.  Demas did not love the ‘world’, but ‘the current age’ – aeon/age – αιωνα – the same word translated elsewhere as ‘eternity’ as in ‘eternal destruction’ or ‘age’ as in ‘the age to come’.  The phrase need not necessarily connote a simple material=bad spiritual=good conclusion and could possibly be tied up with the early Church’s emerging eschatology. Thessalonica had differences of opinion with Paul on eschatology as Paul’s two letters to them show – are those differences related to why Demas went from Paul to Thessalonica?  I don’t know. 

Also the final and oft quoted phrase is from a late epistle which most scholars wouldn’t include in the list of epistles we think were written by Paul himself, so the references to Demas may be references to a real person – or may contain a symbolic message that readers at the time would have understood).

(Second aside:  Calling myself Demas as opposed to MightyChristfilledWarriorForChristJustLikePaulWas throws my enemies into confusion and alarums, which is fun).


67 Responses to “Who was Demas?”

  1. demas Says:

    Hi Calvin, thanks for stopping by! Feel free to quote as much as you want; it’d be nice if you would say where you got the quote from. Cheers, Demas

  2. Demas forsook the grat Apostle Paul while Paul was in prison. It is clear that Demas loved the world more than God and that is why he forsook Paul. There are many many people in and out of churches that have forsaken Jesus Christ because they love this present world and the temporary things it has to offer.
    What you must remember is Mark 8:36
    For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

    • blessedpenn Says:

      I have this same problem. I do enjoy the things of this world but how can I enjoy these things and lose myself (flesh) in the Lord, is it possible?

    • Personally, I’m glad Demas forsook Paul and that Paul recorded it. It shows me the grace of God and that we all have to choose our way every day of our life in Christ. Its a free choice to serve God or not every day and our eternal salvation has nothing to do with the Free Gift of Eternal life in Jesus Christ.
      Nowhere does Paul damn Demas to hell like so many of the good brethren do. It shows a dividing line between those that understand and have been show Grace and those that either don’t understand it, have forsaken it, or have not ever known it to begin with.

      • Evan Says:

        Indeed we have free choice whether to serve God or not every day. However, Paul makes it very plain that there are consequences to our salvation should we choose to engage in habitual sin.
        “Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation-but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For IF you live according to the flesh, YOU WILL DIE; but IF by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, YOU WILL LIVE” (Rom 8:12-13).
        These verses describe the potential death of born-again believers, referred to as the brethren in v. 12. If this death were not a real possibility, the warning would be nonsensical. We also know that this warning pertains to spiritual death – not physical death – because everyone dies physically irrespective of how we live our lives. Moreover, one must have spiritual life in order to be in danger of spiritual death. You cannot threaten a spiritually dead person with spiritual death. Such a person is already dead. Therefore, it must be concluded that these are regenerate brethren who are being warned of dying. Also note that this verse is conditional – not unconditional – as indicated by the word “if.” IF those believers walk according to the flesh, they will die. IF those believers walk according the Spirit, they will live.

  3. sojourner Says:

    I’ve been doing a little research on Demas for a Sunday School lesson in 2nd Timothy. Most folks/articles assume that Demas forsook God and the faith. But in the English text, it just said he quit Paul, quit the ministry. These days many people quit ministries, but don’t quit the faith. And their seems to be many church goers these days with varying degrees of love for what the world has to offer. Some are still fervent for the Lord, some are more the pew warmer type. But not my place to say who is among the elect in the end.

    Just wondering if there is something in the original manuscripts that point to a 180 degree turn vs. just wanting to not live the hard life of a missionary anymore.

  4. CJ Says:

    Right…he left ‘the’ ministry. You are either for or against…there is no inbetween. A ‘christian’ does NOT leave a fellow believer when he is needed most! God did NOT tell Demas to leave his friend in a very time of trouble. This man was selfish and it just goes to show how people nowadays do not know or understand the true definition of ‘Chistian’. Means baby Jesus. Jesus would NOT have turned His back at such a needed time as this. Demas loved the world…you can try to justify it and analyze it all you want, it will not keep you in the glory of God. Truth is truth and we know the one who is the father of all lies. There were other issues here that I really cannot see that you study the Word of God and allow His Spirit to teach you. Please know that I will be praying for you! There is only one way to heaven and it WILL BE HARD! If we are going to be like Christ then we will suffer! We are not here for our own desires we are here to get others into the kingdom before ‘two are standing in the field and one will be gone’.

    • Max Says:

      Why do you say that a christian does ‘Not’ leave a friend in need? Christians still have a sin nature meaning they are capable of the same things that unbelievers are capable of. Just because one is a christian does not mean that one will automatically never sin. We as Christians shouldn’t sin and because we have the holy spirit we are able to not sin if we so choose, but that doesn’t mean we still cant walk after the flesh.

      • merle bailey Says:

        when i read about what Demas did to his freiend paul, i thanked God becaues i have abandoned many people and things in my life( my life got too busy and i simply kicked them to the curb not intentioaly but what can i say it happened. And it is a selfish thing to do, who am i to say or feel that my life is more important than what God would have me to do. I repented and asked God to heip me not ever do that again. If you are the body of Christ how can you just walk away from one of your members. the truth is the truth.

  5. C Thomas Says:

    Kingdom Blessings my Brother in Christ.

    This study on Demas has been quite sobering for myself having heard of Demas’ love and support of Pual during very diffeicult and dangerous times. Forsaking Paul when Paul needed Him the most. But many times it’s very easy to fall into judgment concerning Demas, But the word often remind us learly, ” let him who thinks he’s strong take heed less he also fall… ” I can relate all so well the dilema. For having forsoke the call of God on my life for some 4years. Rejoicing now that Christ has caused the scales to fall from my eyes, restoring me back into the ministry of the Gospel.

    It’s hard and challenging to fathom how someone could tranfer their love for Christ who loves and loved us soooo very much and continues to lavish this love upon us daily.

    How could one continue to loves a world that is quickly passing away instead of an eternal Kingdom that is close at hand.

    Lord help us as your people to stay near the cross, continue to cover us beneath the shadow of your wings. God bless you my brother and keep contending for the Faith.

    respectfully submitted.

    Min. C Thomas

    Hbg. Pa

  6. Josh B. Says:

    I have been doing research for a project in religion class about Demas and it’s bad that he left Paul when he needed him most but when you think about it, Demas is actually a very good example for us Christians today. He may have left Paul but no where does it say that he left the faith, maybe he was unable to stand persecution like others were able to. The blood of martyrs are the seeds of the faith, but I think there are those who are not supposed to be seeds, those who will help the faith along after the seeds are planted, like a cultivator or harvester of the seeds.
    That is all just specuation on my part, but who knows who is right or wrong or is there a third option or an inbetween answer, who knows. We may never find out in this life, but maybe we will when we get to Heaven we can find out.

    • watson Says:


      • Steven Apell Says:

        But John 3:16 says that ” God loved the world” There is a difference between cosmos ( systematized world system that draws us away from God ) and world = people on the earth

  7. Adullamite Says:

    Good study.

    How we jump to conclusions!
    How we judge instead of discern.
    How we condemn without leaving to the judge himself.
    How we never find out if he returned.

    I love judgmental people.
    It reminds me I am not the only one……

  8. Rev. JG Sheffield Says:

    Very interesting comments. The only thing sad to see is the condemnation of Demas. Do I agree or justify what he did? Absolutely not, but we have to remember that once we are saved we belong to God. We see people for whatever reasons leave church for whatever reasons, and instead of praying for them, and reaching out to them they get punished damned and disfellowshiped. We are in a constant battle with the enemy and his weapons are numerous. If you think that his focus is on world you are mistaken. His focus is on believers, totally. He doesn’t have to worry about non believers because they are dead already. Does this mean we are condoning or partaking in their sin by trying to get them back on the right path? NO! We cannot join in their sin, but we should not be throwing them to the dogs either. We should be spiritually prepared to battle the enemy in situations like these and if you are not it is best to let someone who is prepared do the work, but do not condemn because you don’t have your personal hell to throw anybody in.

  9. Pastor Jason Silver Says:

    James 4:3-4 says…

    “You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God .Or do you think Scripture says without reason that the spirit he caused to live in us envies intensely?”

    This is talking about the ways of the world, killing, fights and quarrels brought on by lusts of the flesh. We are to love the people of this present world as does God (John 3:16) but we don’t love their way of doing things and act so accordingly. Paul was very clear that Demas left him for “love of this present age” or “world”. Demas clearly chose pursuing what is temporary over what is to be eternal…the next age or world, the Kingdom of God.

    I know a number of people who have discontinued full-time ministry, albeit it wasn’t because they loved the things of the world more. So I’m not concerned regarding their decision.

    However, Demas clearly, “…having loved this present world” left Paul in a time of great need! This unfortunately is quite common in churches today. I’ve had so many people say to me personally, “Oh I’m with you brother, God has called me to help you.” And at the first sign of tough times God conveniently calls them elsewhere…hmmmmmm.

    Anyways…that’s my schpeel
    Good topic…Thanx

  10. David E Benedict Says:

    Dear Demas: I find myself in almost total agreement with you. I had written about a 20 minute stage presentation that assumes Demas is back in Thessalonika afte some years and … to make a long story short, about how he (me) would have handled the notoriety. Demas and Judas, what a lovely couple. I wonder what we in The States “sell out” our Lord and Master for. We have become so comfortable with Post-Reformation theology that we can’t really recite the Nicene without pages of exception and extrapolations. The best at those extrapolations are the onces who have coddled by Second Great Awakening theology. One of my favorite connundrums is the Orthodox saying “the Church created the Bible but the Bible created the Church.” I came to Demas through that famous Harvey Cox sermon. (Wasn’t it Catherine Marshall who wrote the book “I come to love you late” about Judas. Hope this finds you well and happy. May the peace of God be with you.

  11. Strelnikov Says:

    I think Pastor Jason Silver has hit the nail right on the head!

    If Demas simply decided to “go in another direction” from Paul because he wasn’t keen on becoming a martyr, then how is he any different from Peter denying Christ to avoid persecution? (Which is clearly frowned upon, right?)

    You call yourself Demas, and you offer this statement:

    “Who the hell am I, safe and secure in my Western first world bubble, to judge like this?”

    This to me sounds like a classic case of moral relativism. I agree with you that we project our own shortcomings onto Demas, but that doesn’t alter the fact that he abandoned his post! It doesn’t really matter why he left Paul. If it did, the bible would be more clear on this point. All we know is that he abandoned Paul because of a love for the world. Maybe he had a girlfriend in Thessalonica that he missed. Maybe his father needed help back on the farm or something. Maybe he was gripped with indecision over leaving and then felt guilty about it for the rest of his life. We don’t know. But it doesn’t matter why he did it. The fact remains. Paul needed him, and he wasn’t there. Demas was a failure. He may have been a really likable, fun guy, but he will forever be remembered for what he failed to do rather than for what he achieved.

    I would also submit that if he and Paul left on good terms, Paul probably wouldn’t have said anything about Demas leaving. Clearly this was something that grieved Paul, and so he mentions it the way he does.

  12. demas Says:

    “This to me sounds like a classic case of moral relativism”

    No, just an awareness of Matthew 7:1.

    I have fallen at much easier hurdles than the ones Demas faced.

  13. Pastor Jason Silver Says:

    Let’s not forget Jesus’ own words in Luke 9:62…

    “No one who puts his hand to the plow and then looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.”

    Jesus had many follow him for a little while and then leave him and never return. Jesus at no time refers to this as being an honorable act.

    I know Peter was mentioned here in this forum as being a deserter too. However, the major difference was that he was “repentant” and returned to the Lord’s side. We will all deal with times of doubt, but the key is, if Jesus truly is our Lord and Saviour, then our soul will be anchored in Him, and we will be as Peter was again “restored to the brethren”.

    Unfortunately we have no text referring to Demas being restored back to Paul, so we can only assume that he stuck with his decision to abandon his committment to Paul, which no matter which way you look at it is a dishonorable thing.


  14. demas Says:

    “we can only assume”

    We choose to assume. Based on an argument from silence, and half a dozen words in a letter that may not have been written by Paul anyway.

  15. Pastor Jason Silver Says:

    With all due respect…

    What difference does it make if Paul did write the letter himself or someone else penned his doings? Jesus didn’t pen the Gospels Himself, but we still see them as the records of what Jesus said and did.

    And you’re right we do “choose to assume”, however assumptions don’t always prove to be incorrect. The fact still remains that we have nothing recorded of Demas’ repentance. So if he did…great! If he didn’t, well God will be his judge… obviously.

    The point I’m trying make is that the scripture is very clear that “loving this present world” is not a good thing… period!!

    There’s a real movement in our society and it’s creeping into the Church of “doing what is right in our own eyes.” However, the scriptures again are very clear that, “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.” And yes as Strelnikov pointed out earlier it’s called Moral Relativism.

    Moral relativism is a bunk system, it flat out doesn’t work. This was something I actually heard in a conversation, “I’m okay if you steal other guys girlfriends because for you it’s okay, I just wouldn’t do it myself that’s all. But for you it’s okay.” Then the question was asked of him, “Dude, what happens when he steals your girlfriend?” Then all of a sudden he wasn’t okay with his buddies moral (or immoral)choice afterall. Why? Because now it affected him personally.

    The fact remains that we will all suffer the consequences of someone else’s sin in our lifetime, most of us already have somewhere along the way. However, I refuse to knowingly sit back and tolerate anothers willful sin that myself or family and friends will have to suffer the consequence for. I’m not gonna sit back and avoid a confrontation of that sin only to have to suffer the consequence later. And more than that I don’t want my brother who is sinning to suffer either. Because Jesus tells me to love him. But love isn’t a cover up… like hey let’s sweep it under the rug. It means when we sin, love has got us covered!

    Anyways sorry, I’m startin’ another topic here… I just can’t stand the whole moral relativism/no ultimate truth rubbish that’s going around.

    Cheers All!
    Kingdom Blessings

    • Earl Says:

      Moral relativism is rampant in our society today thanks to the 60s generation of spoiled, selfish baby boomers who I am regretfully a part of. It’s destroying this country from within. If it feels good do it….there’s right or wrong.

  16. demas Says:

    Hi Jason, no moral relativism here, none in the original post. There is a standard of goodness that we are measured with and that standard is God and none of us meet the standard. But it is precisely because we realise that none of us meet the standard that we should be mindful of Jesus’ words regarding judgement.

  17. Pastor Jason Silver Says:

    Hey Demas

    Jesus never told us not to judge at all, period. He said, “First remove the plank from your own eye.” Meaning I can’t judge someone else in an area where I do the same thing. That’s hypocrisy. That was the way the Pharisees lived.

    We are not to however judge those outside of the Church, Paul is very clear on this:

    1 Cor 5:12-13

    “What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside.”

    Alot of folks use the “Jesus told you not to judge me” argument in the Church to excuse them living in known sin. The problem is it doesn’t excuse
    that at all. Now if I’m judging a non believer outside the Church, I’m clearly in the wrong. Jesus came to save the world, not condemn it! Likwise we need to look at the world redeptively as Jesus does.

    Back to Demas, he was in “he fold” this is clear, he left “the fold” for “loving this present age” he returned and was restored to “the fold” not clear at all. That’s all I’m saying.

    In my 35yrs as a Christian I have had more than enough opportunities to leave the faith, and abandon those I’m committed to, but the fact is I haven’t. I’m not bragging at all, I’m just saying it to be a fact. So I’m not being hypocritical in my suppostion on Demas.

    Thanks Demas
    I’m enjoying our musings together

  18. Pastor Jason Silver Says:

    Sorry for all the above “typos” I was in a hurry when I wrote it….lol


  19. Strelnikov Says:

    Pastor Jason,

    I’m glad you brought up the topic of 1 Corinthians chapter 5. That entire chapter is about judgment.

    I can’t tell you how many people I’ve met who call themselves christians and yet believe in their hearts that it is o.k. for people to “do their own thing”, and it’s “not their place to judge others”. All rivers flow to the sea, what’s right for you may not be right for me, etc. That entire concept of moral relativism stands in stark contrast to 1 Corinthians.

    For example, 1 Corinthians 5 starts out with this passage:

    1It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. 2And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? 3Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present.

    How can we possibly not judge other believers? As a believer, you should always strive to help your brother stay the course. This process by definition means that you are constantly judging the actions of your brothers and letting them know when they are beginning to stray. Man by his very nature tends toward sin. That is one of the reasons why it is important for christians to seek out a community of other christians with which to have fellowship. The “lone wolf” christian is bound to end up straying off the path without a brother there to guide him.

    We have every right to “judge” Demas. If you prefer another word, perhaps you can think of it as “evaluating the behavior” of Demas. He loved the things of this world. Let’s just say for sake of discussion that he loved riches, and he decided to take a job in the market place where he know he would make a pile of sheckels and be able to buy a fig orchard to retire in. I think Paul as his brother in Christ not only has a right, but a DUTY to point out to Demas that the pursuit of riches is a dead end road and that it is easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than to get to heaven.

    You scoff at the idea of an argument from silence, Demas, but I think that the silence is compelling! Why would Paul even mention the falling away of Demas if it were irrelevant, or if it were trivial? Also, if the letter were not written by Paul, then why would the true writer mention Demas at all, particularly if you believe that it was written decades after the fact? And if it were written many years later, and in the intervening years Demas had come back to the fold, wouldn’t the writer simply eliminate this reference to his falling away?

    We can’t know anything more about Demas than half a dozen words in an obscure reference. However, we have every right to evaluate the decisions Demas made and make a determination as to whether his actions are in harmony with scripture or not. We don’t have a right to condemn Demas. We should continue to love him as a brother. However, we have a DUTY to condemn his actions and judge his decisions and try to help him back to the path of righteousness.

  20. David E Benedict Says:

    Whatever happened to “Be as wise as serpents but as harmless as doves.” This is not about judgment, it is about discrimination. Paul, in his own mind, would have fostered the notion that Demas left because he loved the world more. Wew are not told why Demas was there in Rome, just that he was. He shows up from Thessalonika (and my own take on it was that the church had sent him to look in on Paul) and nobody there knew anything about him. Pastor Jason, have you ever had someone come in to your church one Sunday, apparently “out of the blue,” stick around for a while, maybe even a couple of years and then leave. I’m sure you would have had many discussions with that person and found him or her to be a good addition to your congregation, but with the tensions that build up with other members of the congregation that person might have felt unwanted there, for whatever reason. I think we miss the point that God calls the individual and we come together to form a community and life goes on for better or for worse. What was the reason Demas was in Rome anyway? What reason would any normal Greek person have for going to Rome? What would lead us to suspect that Demas was sent to Rome to “look in” on Paul? There are so many questions left unanswered about Demas that if we look at the evidence of his other imprisonments Paul had and how he referred to his fellow prisoners I don’t think for a minute that we can assume he was a prisoner with Paul. Clement is silent on this although he certainly could have met Demas he says nothing. from the timing of Scripture it is my suspicion that Demas left Rome after Paul was re-arrested (Clement is silent on this, too) after Nero took his turn for the worse.

  21. Rebekah Demas Says:

    I think bestly said;..
    “it’s bad that he left Paul when he needed him most but when you think about it, Demas is actually a very good example for us Christians today. He may have left Paul but no where does it say that he left the faith,” (as quoted by,..Josh B. 12/02/08).

    And nowhere it is said that,Demas has forsaken Christ. It was only said, by Paul, & in the contents as a brother.
    Its not at all hard to belive that Paul was discussed & shook by Demas’ choice, which left him alone. And alone, any type of blame is all to easy to put on the first person fresh in one’s mind.

    • Kevin Says:


      I am just wondering what you think about where Pharoah might be right now, no where does it say he did not repent. Or what about the people of Sodom, it does not say they did not repent right before they died. How about Nero, or Caligula, or really any “negative” personality in Scripture? How far should we take the, “it does not say that they did not repent” point.

  22. watson Says:


  23. Danny Remington Says:

    Demas left Paul(aka Saul) in Rome after he had been sentenced to death to return home to Thessaloniki, but does not mean that Demas had completely left the faith. Remember that Mark (aka Marcus) had similarly left Paul (aka Saul) when he was in Pamphylia to return home to Jerusalem but he then turned around and wrote one of the Gospels. Also Peter (aka Cephas aka Simon aka Simeon) had forsaken Jesus when he was on trial as well but he then turned around and became the chief Apostle to the Jews. So it is entirely possible that Demas repented and went on to accomplish the will of God for his life.

  24. Wayfarer Says:

    Hey Demas, my brother in Christ.

    On a positive note – I was reading about the Apocrypha and in one of those writings the two thieves who were crucified with Christ are given names. The one who turns to Christ is called “Demas.” His reward was to go straight to Paradise and wait there until the rest of us arrive.

    It’s name worth having!

  25. indianriveredgewater Says:

    The syncretism of Old Testament Israel (Jehovah and Baal/Ashteroth/Molech) has been replaced in this generation by a syncretism of “I like Jesus” and “I love the world” professors of Christ. How can we expect to wear a crown if we resist the cross? James 4:4 is still in the book and says that friendship with the world is enmity with God.

    If we would love the world the way Jesus loved the world (John 3:16) then we would never love the world the way we are not supposed to love it (I John 2:15-17).

    Not sure why you have to make excuses for Demas, unless you are trying to excuse away your own love for the world. Just my opinion.

  26. Dearly Beloved: “For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world and is departed unto Thessalonica”…. “Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas greet you”.. “Marcas, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellow labourer.. AS I prepare for Sunday mornings message the thought is “Demas hath forsaken me”. John 2:15 declares: “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him”. Jesus tells us throughout Revelation chapters 1,2 and 3 to get prepared to be that “Glorious Church without spot or wrinkle”. Return to your “First Love”, guard against lukewarmness, strengthen those things which remain and are ready to die. Baalam, Jezebel, and the Nicolaitans doctrines are to be excluded in their spiritual walk! At the time of Paul’s departure, grievous wolves would destroy the true Spirit and Gospel Message. The enemy of our souls is trying his best to subvert us. The denominational structure we now call churches, are anything and everything but preaching true Holiness. Jesus cleansed the Temple on two separate occasions and proclaimed His Father’s house to be called “A house of Prayer”. Merchandising with high prices, brought about the overturning of the money exchanger’s tables and being driven away with Jesus’s zeal and righteous defense of his Father’s Temple. Loving this present world is dangerous. Every thought we think should be Christ centered. Psalms 91 tells us to dwell in the secret place of the most high. The world “Savior”is mentioned only a few times. The term “Lord” is mentioned numerous times through the scriptures. Demas is one follower of Jesus and friend of Paul’s that decided to turn away from the work of the Lord! “The word tells us “not” to be weary in well doing, for we would reap our reward if we faint not. Isaiah writes for us to wait upon the Lord and we would renew our strength. Failure isn’t final unless we just give up. I gain strength from Paul’s writing to the Phillipian church in Chapter One verse 6: “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it, until the day of Jesus Christ”. This gives me an attitude of victory in conquering this present world. The song says: “Turn your eyes upon Jesus, Look full in HIs wonderful face, and the things of Earth will grow strangely dim, in the light of His glory and Grace”! WE need to pray for a “truck load of Grace” daily. We need to petition God for His mercy which endures forever! Never quit on The Lord! If you stumble, rise up quickly to your feet and keep pressing on! The prize is Glorious! WE will someday “reap if we faint not”. Church hopping from place to place will create a confusion of truth. Calvinism is “Irresistable GRace”. Armenianism is “Conditional GRace”. WE need to understand that Jesus said: “He that endureth to the end Shall be saved”. We’ve watered down the SPIRIT AND TRUTH PRINCIPAL IN OUR WALK WITH CHRIST TO THE POINT THAT WE no longer bear fruit! Demas is a warning to us, to rise above this present world realizing we are only passing through. Most of mankind passes through this life never understanding what God intended for us to do! Our Adversary, The Devil is as a roaring lion roaming to and fro seeking whom he may devour! Will it be you, or me? Joshua the high priest in Zechariah was standing before the Lord and Satan was at his right hand to resist him. WE need to abide in the True vine “Jesus”. There is no need to ‘give up on God’. He knows how to keep us. REpent of your backsliding, give your all to Him! He loves you and is determined to keep you by His grace! It is up to us to let Him do it! Departing from the faith and giving heed to seducing Spirits and doctrines of Devils is a danger we must be on guard against. Remember: “Greater is He that is you,than he that is in the world”; 1st John 4:4. Jesus said: “In your patience, possess ye your souls”. “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus”; REvelation 14:12. “Not by might, not by power, but by my Spirit, Saith the Lord”! Jude talks of “the common salvation” that most of the denominational world believes, but also exhorts us to “earnestly contend for the faith that was once delievered unto the saints”. We should be Saved (born again), be Sanctified, (cleansed and set apart);and Filled with the Holy Ghost”; (with the evidence of speaking with tongues). A shallow experience in Christ, will not suffice us until the end. There is too much deception within the modern church culture! So much more I perhaps could say, but “HOLD ON TO JESUS”! Let’s not forsake the assembling of ourselves together! Get rooted and grounded in Love! Stop wandering off from church to church! We love you in the Lord. Be Blessed! Jesus is coming sooner than we think! Love in Christ: Pastor Stephen W. Pyle, Church of God of Prophecy, 43 Gilmore Street, P.O. Box 2171, Elkins WV 26241. 304-637-0073, 304-704-2190. pastorswpyle@yahoo.com

  27. Dearly Beloved: Christ tells us in the scriptures that not everyone that calls Him Lord will enter in, but they “that do the will of the Father”. The world does not lack for religion. “Forrest Gump” religion is to open a box of chocolates and pick and choose your church. “Is variety the spice of life”? Just imagine eating one of those sampler chocolates. Churches today are compared to that box of chocolates. Anything Goes. Live as you want to live as long as you have been forgiven! Once in Grace, always in GRace? Most “so called” Christians don’t understand what they have been saved from! What did Christ save us from? Is it not sin? Why do we want to “frustrate the Grace of God”? Have we forgotten we were cleansed from all unrighteousness? “Shall we continue to live in sin that Grace may abound”? Jude mentions these “wandering stars”, “clouds without water”, who have “turned the Grace of God into lasciviousness”. “Twice dead plucked up by the roots”! We who have been called out of “darkness” into His marvelous light”, must cease from sin. Hebrews tells us to cast off every weight and sin that easily besets us. John says “if any many sin, we have an advocate with the Father (Jesus Christ).
    IN the same context he first writes “little children I would that ye sin not”. The word of God is clear: “All have sinned and come short of the glory of God”. Once we have become saints, we should strive to “sin not”. Demas may have not been eternally lost, but the overtone of his departure makes his situation sound very perilous and dangerous concerning his eternal future! Let’s strive to live better, and trust in the Lord, and abide in Him! Leaving for this present world at “this” present time in 2010, could prove to be “fatal” eternally! “My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness. On Christ the solid Rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand, all other ground is sinking sand”. Let us go on to “perfection” (or completion in Christ), not laying again the foundation from “dead works”, “repentance”, “faith in God”, “baptisms” and the “first works”. Are we going to remain “babes” in Christ or are we going to “grow up and put away Childish things”? “Satan desires to have us and sift us as wheat, but I Thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who has prayed that my faith fail not”! To follow the example of Demas is to be overcome by the “cares and duties” of this life, be “lukewarm”, passive, lazy, apathetic, and to say the least be problematic within our own church congregation! “The Buck stops here”, Harry Truman said. Will we endure until the end or will we “depart” from the Faith? If we depart from the faith, love this present world, backslide into sin, then Jesus will say: “Depart from Me ye worker of iniquity, I never knew you, or I know ye not whence ye are”! The lesson we learn from Demas should make us afraid to walk away from the Lord or His work! Let’s finish work that Jesus has commissoned us to accomplish. “Unless the Lord build the House, we labor in vain that build it”. “Unless the Lord keep the city, the watchmen waketh in vain”. Paul tells timothy “I’ve fought the fight and I kept the Faith”. Our “only” desire should be to hear our Master say “Well done though good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of the Lord”. Will we pursue the “weak and beggarly” elements of this current “cess pool” we call earth, or look for “a city that has foundations, whose builder and maker is God”! “Well take this whole world, but give me Jesus, take this whole world but give me Jesus, take this whole world, but give me Jesus, no turning back, no turning back. I have decided, to follow Jeus, I have decided to follow Jesus, I have decided to follow Jesus, no turning back, no turning back. Jesus reminds us to remember “Lot’s wife”. Genesis does’nt mention her name. I will call her name; “Saltina” (Salt-tina). She became a pillar of salt! Jesus said we should be the salt of the earth! Her legacy would have been better if she had obeyed and not looked back again! Perhaps Lot wouldn’t have fathered his daughters babys and we wouldn’t have to deal with present day “Moabites and Ammorites”. Jesus also said not to “look back, taking our hand off the plow”. At any rate, we will stumble often, but get back up and keep going “forward”. Our reward is very precious. We are going to spend eternity in “one” of “two” places: Heaven or “hell”. Eternity is “Forever”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IN Christ, our blessed Hope
    Pastor Stephen W. Pyle
    Elkins Church of God of Prophecy
    P.O. Box 2171
    Elkins WV 26241

  28. DEarly Beloved: “Certain men crept in unawares”. Could this be Demas? “For me to live is Christ, to die is gain”! Paul would only “glory in the Cross of Jesus Christ”! The journey down “straight and narrow” is a difficult enduring, patient walk. After Paul was converted, he was recooperating and residing on a street called ‘STRAIGHT’ in Damascus. We can’t do this thing on our own. Our righteousness is as filthy rags. Christ in us is the “Hope of Glory”! Certain men may creep into “church” membership which is “visible”. The “kingdom of God cometh “not” with observation, it is within us, “invisible”. Since the church is visible, those who take membership my pretend to be saved. We can let them become part of us! Usually, they will show their true colors! Paul believed Demas was a beloved brother! I believe the context of the scripture is accurate. Demas “fell” from his relationship with the Lord! Simon the sorcerer believed and was baptized, but showed his true feelings inwardly when he wanted to “buy” the power of God with money! We have been reedemed with the precious Blood of Jesus Christ, bought with a price! We have not been purchased with corruptable things such as silver and Gold! Demas is a curious, interesting topic with which Lord willing, I plan to preach about This Sunday!! (10-3-10). All things considered: Let us keep our lamps trimmed and burning, for the bridegroom watch and wait! “He will keep us in perfect peace as we keep our hearts and minds on HIm”!

    Let brotherly Love continue:
    Pastor Stephen W. Pyle
    P.O. Box 965
    Elkins WV 26241

  29. Dear Beloved Saints of God:

    Yes indeed we were able to preach on the subject of”Demas” this morning. The annointing from the Holy Spirit came upon this preacher as soon as I came in the pulpit after the 10am-11am Sunday School hour. What resulted was a great altar service where many were touched by God! To Him be glory in the CHURCH!, World without End! I’m thankful for the precious blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!. The old saying goes like this: “If God is dead, who is this living in my soul”. That is an individual assessment! In the 4th chapter of 2nd Timothy, Paul is exhorting young Timothy and “US” to rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering; for many would depart from the Faith! It is also written: “Many would depart from the faith and give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils!” They would have: “itching ears”, wanting to hear what pleases them! Jesus was asked from James and John’s mother to allow each of them to sit on either side of our Savior in Heaven! Jesus asked them if they where willing to drink the same cup He would drink from, meaning carry their cross and sacrifice their lives! They were willing! Christ informed them “indeed you shall drink of this cup”, and that it was up to the Father whom he would grant to sit next to our Lord! Demas just couldn’t handle what Paul was about to face. The pull of this world is so great, it doesn’t take much to deceive us and pull us downward! Few there be that will find that straight and narrow path! Yet the Lord “says whosoever will may come”, “drink the Water of Life freely”. My heart’s desire is to hear Jesus say: “Well done thou good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of the Lord”. It is within our reach and grasp to “hold on to Jesus”. The Lord will hold on to us! Our personal cross is very heavy! He will sustain us as we carry it! He will help us to carry it! I’m sure we have all heard the story of “two” sets of footprints and then “one” set of footprints! The 4th man seen in the fiery furnace, is “still in there”!!!!!!!!!!
    May the Lord Bless and keep you is my prayer, let us not grow weary as Demas. Be patient until the end of our lives!!!!!!!!!!

    Our Blessed Hope of Christ
    The zeal of the Lord of Hosts will perform this!
    Be Blessed
    Pastor Stephen W. Pyle (its me again Lord!)

  30. Dear Saints of God:

    Again I want to greet all of you who may view the above comments. Briefly, We must hold on to Jesus, win the lost at any cost. Getting saved is only the beginning. People are attending churches who preach a “comfortable life style”. When I read the accounts in Acts, Pauline Epistles, Synoptic Gospels, Peter, James, John and REvelation, we find that serving God is “Peace”, Love, Joy, Faith, and not emphasis on Comfort and easy Grace! We must carry our own crosses!

    We are bought with a price, we need to glorify God in our bodies, presenting them a living sacrifice and having our minds transformed to know the perfect and acceptable will of God! If you want comfort, rest in Jesus and be patient until we reach our perfect goal: “Heaven”. We can really get comfortable then and relax.

    AT this present time we are engaging in the most fierce combat against “The powers of darkness, Principalities, and Spiritual wickeness in High places!” Why in all the earth do we need to worship the works of Satan on October 31st?

    Choose you this day whom you shall serve! AS for me and my house, we will serve the Lord! SATAN! The LORD REBUKE THEE!

    lOVE IN Christ
    Pastor Stephen W. Pyle
    43 Gimore Street
    Elkins WV 26241
    P.O. Box 2171
    Elkins, WV 26241

  31. Pastor Stephen W. Pyle Says:

    Dearly Beloved: “Demas has forsaken me, loving this present world” was printed for today’s edition of The Inter-mountain News of Elkins WV. The sermon is authored by Pastor Stephen W. Pyle. Inter-Mountain .com

    Be Blessed
    Pastor Stephen W. Pyle

  32. Jill Says:

    I appreciate your post. It is easy to forget how much closer I do relate to men like Demas that I ever would to Paul :).

  33. Rebekah Says:

    discussions & opinions I do enjoy. But I must take a moment to say (to all posters),
    Merry Christmas & May God Bless Us All & Our 2011.

  34. ihongbe edwin Says:

    i like this topic

  35. Moses Adegbite Says:

    It is quite clear from biblica point of view that one cannot love God and the world i.e. the sinful practice, ungodly amusements, unguarded desires, unwholesome ambitions etc. at the same time. See 1John 2:15-17. If you truly stand for Jesus the world would not admit you like it did Demas. Don’t waist time explaining away the truth of the bible. It an effort in futility.When Paul and Barnabas disagree in ministry you wouldn’t hear of Paul that Barnabas loved the world.
    Bro Moses Adegbite

  36. Dearly Beloved: I guess I’ve learned “not” to publish my email address. I reportedly, had a ‘bogus’ trip to Nigeria and someone tried to hack 35 hundred dollars from all my email correspondents! Now listen, I forgive whomever did this.

    The world may be in a desparate situation, but Jesus can supply all of our needs according to His riches in glory. Come on now, do you think any of our email friends fell for that “rip-off”. We love you anyway, but next time, please “ask the Lord for the money and not my email friends! I do love you and forgive your ignorance! I forgive you! really!

    Pastor Stephen W. Pyle

    I can’t let you know about my “new” email. Just a line or two above must be sufficient!

  37. Mark Br Says:

    I appreciate the humor, searching and multiple readings of this exegis on Demas. I was reading Jane Eyre, this Demas, might appeal more to Jane than the St. John character.

  38. How about “greivious wolves”: starring: Diotrephes, Baalam, and Jezebel the prophetess. Quite a string of controlling individuals. Perhaps Demas might have joined this entourage had he not left the apostle. These “control” frieks can wreck a congregation in a hurry!

    Let’s all pull together for Jesus
    Pastor Stephen W. Pyle
    Elkins WV

  39. late to the discussion- but was preparing a sermon for Sunday at our church in Auburn Wa and loved your comments on Demas. Thanks for the sermon help!

  40. Jon Says:

    Demas is greatly misunderstood there is much more to the story than him just quitting and leaving. You may even say he was the most sane minded individual in the new testament. Everyone else has a death wish and seemingly WANT to die. Demas wishes for life and he knew his time wasn’t now and that as a man he must live his life and not sacrifice in vain. What would his death prove? He choose the sound decision and wasnt so rash as Paul. There is a difference between a believer and a fanatic.

    • Jonathan Bosley Says:

      So Paul was a fanatic? And demas was the beliver? His sound decision was to “love the world” ?

  41. tagoe nii okai Says:

    i think Demas left Paul becos of spiritaul dryness and boredorness. ie. Paul going to prison one after the other. It may also be that he heard a doctrine which is contrary to what Paul has thaugt him. It may also be greed of pleasure and wealth in the world. I pray that i will not fall in the shoes of demas!

  42. Lynell Says:

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I truly appreciate your efforts and I
    will be waiting for your further post thanks once again.

  43. Agreed about judgement of others. I am a writer, and am working on a book about a lost soul. At first, I made this soul Coroticus, the apostate St. Patrick condemned and prayed for, that he see the light and come back to Christ. But then the Holy Spirit checked me, and told me that I was adding too much to this man’s story–adding sins that he may have never committed. I did not want to meet this man one day who, to my surprise, had come back to God in the 5th century though nothing was ever said about his reconversion. i changed the name to something fictional, and have continued with my book.

    Even Jesus Himself said that He did not judge, but left that to His ‘Father,’ the Creator.

  44. Zgs Zoe Says:

    Demas loved the world…. it’s simply said in the verse. You either love God or love the world….. C’mon folks… this is not judging but simply reiterating Paul….read your bible…..

  45. Eddie Says:

    Awesome post.

  46. demas Says:

    my name is dimas

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    [sing it to the tune of “Rapture” by Blondie]

    I’m Boss Paul, the Pharisee
    My hypocrisy’s plain for the world to see
    I travel the land and travel the sea
    to make a convert who is just like ME

    “All have sinned” – we know that’s true
    but it never means ME – it only means YOU
    My sins are all theoretical
    “I’m the worst of sinners”- but don’t ask where

    To be more like Jesus is what some strive
    except for me – I’ve already arrived
    I’m the perfect model since the road to Damascus
    What were Paul’s sins? Don’t ask us!

    I justify everything I do
    If I testify about myself it MUST be true
    I’m the only man in all history
    whose testimony doesn’t need two or three

    If I did something it MUST be right
    Don’t use the Scripture to shed any light
    Don’t do as I say, do as I do
    and then you can be a Pharisee too.

  49. Which is the most important?
    Jesus was asked twice, by two different men, the same basic question about which is the most important or greatest commandment in the Law. Here is how Jesus answered that question:

    “One of the teachers of the law… asked him [Jesus],
    ‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’

    “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “ is this: ‘Hear, of Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than THESE.” [Mark 12:28-31, Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Leviticus 19:18]

    …an expert in the law, tested him [Jesus] with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’”

    Jesus replied: “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these TWO commandments.” [Matthew 22:36-40, Deuteronomy 6:5, Leviticus 19:18]

    But in contrast with Jesus, Paul the Pharisee didn’t know the greatest, most important, first commandment according to Jesus. Paul made up his own rule. Paul wrote:
    “The entire law is summed up in a SINGLE command: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” [Galatians 5:14, Leviticus 19:18]

    And again, Paul wrote:
    “He who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not covet, and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this ONE RULE: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.” [Romans 13:8-10, Leviticus 19:18]

    Jesus said it’s TWO commandments, with the greatest, most important, first command to
    .1) first, love God with everything you’ve got, and
    .2) second, love people.
    Paul said no, it ONE commandment- to love people.

    This is very similar to The Beatles- “All you need is love. Love is all you need. Love, Love, Love.” (In other words, the second commandment, the love of man, without the love of God. Love as me, myself and I define love to be, and continuously redefined by sinful men.)

    In essence, it is also the same principle as what Eve did in the Garden of Eden, forgetting about the Tree of Life, which is the first tree in the middle of the Garden, and instead referring to the second tree as “the tree that is in the middle of the garden.” [Genesis 3:3 & 2:9 2:17, 3:24]

    Kind of like the Pharisees with Jesus, who were pushing the false idea that we can consider ONE commandment in the Law, alone in isolation, to be “the greatest commandment in the Law.”

    Or like today, false teachers in the Chrislam – Purpose Driven – Seeker Sensitive – Emergent – Liberal – Ecumenical – New Age – world church movement pushing the false idea that the ONE RULE is “Loving God and Neighbor together.”

    The Lord God Jesus the Jewish Messiah, Son of Yahweh the Most High God of Israel, said:
    “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these TWO commandments.”
    Not one. TWO.

    Sometimes, Paul was wrong. Jesus is always right. I’m following Jesus.

    Here are answers to 2 common objections:
    .a) What about the so-called “Golden Rule”?
    Jesus spoke the 3 chapters of the Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5-7, including 7:12. Jesus didn’t make PART of this one verse out of context into “The Golden Rule” or “one rule.” Jesus did not use the term “Golden Rule,” it’s simply a tradition of men. The sentence begins with “So” in the NIV and Amplified Bibles, and “Therefore’ in the NASB and King James Bibles, which ties 7:12 to the previous sentences. So 7:12 cannot stand alone as One Commandment.

    .b) What about the so-called “Great Commission”?
    Jesus spoke the words recorded in Matthew 28:18-20, including “make disciples of all nations.” Jesus never used the term “Great Commission,” it’s simply a tradition of men. Yes I agree it’s a commandment given by Jesus, it’s not optional, and it applies to us today. We need to carry this out, with our own God-given abilities and talents, using the skills, and circumstances we have. But we don’t need to put words in the mouth of Jesus, we can let Jesus speak for himself, and we can listen to Him – and obey Him.

    Evangelism is part of the Second Commandment given by Jesus, to Love people. Evangelism is not the most important commandment, and it isn’t the entire Second Commandment. So if our priorities are “The Great Commission and the Great Commandment,” we have our priorities upside down and confused, and we are not listening to the voice of Jesus. Never mind what Paul said. Let’s listen to the voice of Jesus first, and get our priorities straight.

    The people who will protest most loudly against this truth are the modern “Pauls:” traveling evangelists, speakers, writers, abusive absentee mega-church pastors, Crusaders, and self-appointed “apostles” like Paul, who find it “profitable” to “be like Paul” rather than follow Jesus the Jewish Messiah.

  50. The Evangelical “Mexican Hat Dance”

    Sin is always specific, not general.
    The “Hat” is, “What were Paul’s sins?”

    The music starts, with a cheery blast of trumpets in a melody that is familiar to most North Americans- the “Mexican Hat Dance.” (The national dance of Mexico, taught in Mexican public schools since 1921, and officially named “El Jarabe Tapatio.”)

    A couple in rather elaborate traditional costumes begins the dance. The man throws his huge sombrero hat on the floor, and the couple dances around it, but never steps on the hat. (The “Hat” is, “what were Paul’s sins?”) Here are the basic steps- (there may be one or two other basic steps, but they are very similar to these.)

    What were Paul’s sins?

    STEP 1) Paul said; “I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man.” [1 Timothy 1:13]
    (Response- Those were Saul’s sins, before Jesus called him. What were Paul’s sins as a Christian? )

    STEP 2) Paul said; “Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners- of whom I am the worst.” [1 Timothy 1:15]
    (Response- Sin is alwasy specific. What were Paul’s specific sins as a Christian? )

    STEP 3) Paul said; “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” [Romans 3:23]
    (Response- Again the same question; What were Paul’s specific sins as a Christian? )

    STEP 4) Paul said; “Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it.” [Philippians 3:12-13]
    (Response- They say third time’s a charm. Same question; What were Paul’s specific sins as a Christian? )

    STEP 5) Paul said; “I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do- this I keep on doing.” [Romans 7:15-19]
    (Response- One more time! This is getting boring. Same question; Specifically, what were Paul’s specific sins as a Christian based on specific verses of the Bible? )

    STEP 6) LOOP- REPEAT steps 1 through 5, until your dance partner gives up, the audience gets bored, or the music stops. The rule is- never step on the “Hat,” just keep dancing around it.

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  52. Parable of the 12 heavenly chalkboards

    What is a common analogy for a permanent decision?
    “Written in stone.”
    What could be more permanent than that?
    How about written in stone in heaven (in other words, for eternity.)
    And what kind of a stone is the most solid, permanent, and unchangeable?
    Perhaps a foundation stone?

    The Book of Revelation written by the Apostle John, chapter 21 verse 14 says… “The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostle of the Lamb.”
    Nothing about a “13th Apostle” or an “Apostle of the Gentiles”…. Hmmmm…..

    Parable of the 12 heavenly chalkboards

    Imagine “Wackyjesus” in “Wackyheaven”, built on the foundations of 12 chalkboards:

    “Matthias, you should have developed your skills in writing and public speaking. Your name never appears in the Bible after your appointment as the 12th Apostle in Acts 1. [erase erase erase]

    Actually, the same is true for you Thaddaeus, after you were appointed. You should have hired a PR firm to promote your name and make if famous. [erase erase erase]

    Of course, you both are specifically mentioned in Acts 6:2. “So the Twelve gathered all the disciples together.” And this is before Saul/Paul is even mentioned. But let us not confuse the issue with facts. Paul did a much better job of marketing himself, and he wrote about himself hundreds of times. Share of voice equals share of mind. And most Evangelical pastors who read the Bible spend most of their time listening to the voice of Paul, so they become “like Paul.” But I digress…

    James, we had a good run. I didn’t think King Herod would knock you off so quickly. [erase erase erase]

    Oh well. Wow, they’re dropping like flies. Now I’ve got 3 slots open. I’d better buy a case of chalk and some more erasers. I’ll have to change the names on these 12 chalkboards hundreds of times in the next couple of millennia.

    I guess I had better plan ahead, and save a slot for the last Pope, Francis. And the head Mormon Apostle. And I need to save a throne for my mom, or she’ll be mad. And one for Muhammad too. Who needs truth in relationship, when I can quickly get market share, and totally dominate the market, through mergers and acquisitions?

    And one throne for that other guy named Peter. When he was younger, he used to have the great theological insight about territorial spirits and wrestling with dark angels. What was his last name? Begins with a consonant. Sounds almost like he was in the personal transportation industry back in “sword and sandal epic” days… “Peter Charioteer?” Maybe not. This isn’t the “fullest” description of him, but it’s full enough. Anyway, I should save a throne for him too.”

    So what is the application of this parable?
    Beware of the NAR whale – it’s really a killer whale with a man-made horn strapped on top. The only place in the New Testament that mentions anything like “Seven Mountains” is Revelation 17, “seven hills on which the woman sits.” (The Great Prostitute, that is.) Rome is the city that sits on seven hills, the perfect place for Peter the Roman, the New World Pope for the New World Order, to replace the original Apostle Peter in the apostate church of the Antichrist.

  53. Wole Ade Says:

    In conclusion, most Christians and churches nowadays are like Demas. They love the world and also love Christ. Considering prosperity preachers, pastors with large congregations. Pastors and members are still drinking, fornicating, spending church money the way they want. That is what the bible refers to as DEMAS.

  54. Demas did not return to Paul….check the date when those three books were written..the book of second timothy was probably the last book(colosian,2timothy,philemo..

  55. Demas Says:

    Demas is my name I don’t no if I should change it

  56. JH Says:

    There are many who can give some credence why the name Satan should not be associated with evil. This they would do against the word of God and the Holy Spirit. Demas has become a backslider, this was a pivotal time in the growth of the church, the Holy Spirit was active, Paul would not have labelled Demas if he wasn’t what he became

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